Just as a fun note, there will be a Cyberspace party, rather than a Cyberspace council this year. It'll be held at Bliss Kitchen/Cyberspace Camp, on July 3rd, after dinner. It's our time to be able to socialize face to face for a change. I Hope to see many of the AGR clan there.
btw - I was also told that this is also a total smoking ban as well. Smoking supposedly needs to only be done with a 3 foot cleared dirt area.
Also there is no swimming allowed in the lake, but to quote "it's pretty scummy, you wouldn't want to", but the drinking water is good and clean.
As my web site is getting pounded right now by folks looking for directions, go to this mirror site on Eagle Net for a hopefully better connection. There is another mirror now at Zhahai's page., or Pieman's.
From the North: From Show Low or Springerville, take Rt. 60 to FS Rd. 117 (near mile marker 372, but it's also labeled as Greens Peak Rd, (CR 3123)) south 5 1/2 miles to FS Rd. 118. Turn left at FS Rd. 118. After 3 1/2 miles on 118, there is a right turn on to 117A. Turn right and stay to your left up the hill, for about 3 more miles. WELCOME HOME!
From the South: From NcNary or Springerville, take 260 to FS Rd. 118 to FS Rd. 117a left at Carnero Lake...left at the gravel pit...WELCOME HOME!!
Here's a few routes I scoped out on the map. I've never been on most of these roads, so I have no idea as to road condition. The main thing I've heard so far is don't take hwy 191 in a Bus or RV. It's windy and slow. Hwy 260 is a good road, and no trouble at all. Rt 60 between Globe and Show Low is a beautiful drive through Salt River Canyon.
From Flagstaff: Take I-40 east to Holbrook. Go south on hwy 77 to Show Low.
From Phoenix: Take I-17 north to Flagstaff, or the back way is to take hwy 87 east to hwy 260. Follow hwy 260 east to hwy 61. Go NE on hwy 61 to SHow Low.
There are shuttles from the PHX airport to Show Low. Here's the skinny:
Az Stage Lines has 2 buses, leaving at 11am and 4pm, both taking 3 hours, and costing $38. For $50, they'll give you a ride right to Bus Village! The phone number is (602) 253 7420.
White mountain lines has a $40 12:15pm bus that takes 5 hours to get to Show Low. Their number is (602) 275-4245.
From Tucson: Take I-10 to Phoenix. Or, take hwy 77 N to hwy 60. Follow hwy 60 to Show Low.
From Las Vegas, NV: Take hwy 93 SE to Kingman, AZ. Then go E on I-40 to Holbrook, Go south on hwy 77 to Show Low. 77 is an easy road for big vehicles, as it's straight with a few small hills.
From Albuquerque, NM: Go W on I-40 to Holbrook, Go south on hwy 77 to Show Low. I hear this could be a tough road to navigate in a Bus or RV. The best way is to take I-25 S to Socorro, and then pick up hwy 60 from there to Springerville.
This is smaller version (161146 bytes) of the official Forest Service maps for Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest.
This is larger version (604135 bytes) of the official Forest Service maps for Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest.
This is a medium sized (263095 bytes) scan of the 7.5 topo map of the site.
A mile south of Carnero Lake (9033 ft.) is a small, N.E. to S.W., saddle (9241 ft. and 9310 ft.). I think the site is between the lake and the saddle, at 9067 ft.
The area is equally divided between forest and meadow of a fairly gentle grade. (Duh, lakes don't grow on hill sides.) This gentle grade area rises to the West for 1.5 mi. back across 117A, and also S.E. for 1 mi. to a no-name spring. From the spring it becomes a very gentle rise to the S.W. for another 1.5 mi. to 9200 ft., going behind the saddle.
The southern end of the lake is fed from the S.W. from Carnero Spring (3/4 mi away), and is drained to the S.E. (100 ft. to the East) by Carnero Creek. The spring comes out of the base, North end, of a ridge 1/4 mi. N.W. of the saddle, and follows the draw between the two.
After 1/8 mi. the creek turns East and, about a mile East of the lake (after dropping 200 ft. and at the end of a 1/4 mi. long meadow), it drops off very quickly in a ravine, falling 500 ft. in only 1/2 mile. The edge of this drop-off runs North (East of the lake) and then N.W. across 117A (Whiting Knoll quadrangle).
The current address for this years All Ways Free is:
ALL WAYS FREE
1512 7TH Avenue
Lewiston, ID 83501
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The current address for this years Rainbow Guide is:
The Rainbow Guide
PO Box 3937
Costa Mesa, CA 92628
Here's more information on the 1997 gathering that was held in June 28th - July 10th, 1997 in Oregon.
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